Posts by moggy lover

Evidently there is this slightly decrepit sales organization that announces "winners" in a TV competition. Actually this is a gimmick and these "awards" are provided to anyone who actually buys these awards.

The purchaser can then announce themselves as the "winner" in whatever category takes their fancy. Since the WTS evidently purchased two of these "awards" they then are entitled to announce themselves as winners.

As the above article from JW Survey indicates, the WTS is not the only bogus organization to stoop to this level. It has great company in other organizations equally shady as the WTS, who also parade themselves as winners.

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TWISTING context to produce false LIGHT (Tricks our Governing Body uses)

by Terry in

as a jehovah's witness:.

two things finally struck me:.

1. i was really in a grown up kindergarten and .

moggy lover

Excellent summation of Prov 4:18. How's this for a false dichotomy:

If the "light" gets brighter and brighter,

does it also mean that

the "Truth" gets "truther" and "truther"?

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1950 Watchtower Bound Volume now Complete!

by Atlantis in

the 1950 september 15th watchtower is now complete and this will finish the 1950 watchtower bound volume.

a big thank you to jaydee for all of his hard work of scanning the watchtowers into jpg files which i received and converted into pdf files and made them searchable.

jaydee worked day and night to get these files finished for us and i really appreciate his kindness... we only had to darken out one name on one shipping label.

moggy lover

I think we should all stand and raise our glasses to the tremendous effort it has taken all those responsible who provided such a valuable historical resource for researchers everywhere.

For the first time in history, and especially in our lifetime, the entire corpus of Watchtower magazine literature has been made available, free to all who need it and in one sustainable package. It has taken almost 20 GB of digital information, collated into easy to read formats, and without even one syllable missing.

There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.

Remember that the Watchtower is the chief theological journal of the Watchtower movement, and with its reduction to a digital format in the hands of a conniving Leadership it can, in later years, be edited to say what it needs to say.

Cheers, Atlantis and everyone responsible.

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A new religion/cult?

by roberto avon in

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a new religion?.

it has been a while that i didn't post.

as some of you may know i live in italy and ( maybe ) something curious is happening.

moggy lover

Have these guys reached out to a wider audience by translating their views in other languages like, say, English?

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A MODERN FICTION: the lie which became a GOVERNING BODY

by TerryWalstrom in

safe to say, if you walked up to any of the 8 million jehovah's witnesses on earth today and told them the.

governing body was a fiction, not only would they refuse to believe you--they'd consider you their immediate enemy!.

what if i told you jw's embrace a mental construct which is at odds with history?.

moggy lover

Wow! this is one well researched and written article. Thanks Terry.

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Theos and theon

by SonoftheTrinity in

oh how dubs will cling to da troof.

this guy was trying to get me to agree that theos and theon were different words for god.

i tried explaining that other languages have grammatical cases and the difference between calling god theos and theon was like the difference between referring to god as he(the subjective case) and him(the objective case.

moggy lover

It has long been debated whether the translation of "a god" in Jo 1:1c is a legitimate rendering of what John the monotheist had in mind. Scholars, such as Julius Mantey have been misunderstood either for supporting or denying its efficacy.

1. It must be accepted that both uses of the word in their respective cases refer to the same concept. In other words, God, or Deity.

2. The word God, in this context cannot be conveniently nuanced by contradictory applications, and thus altering the meanings, one referring to Deity and the other not. And unfortunately that is what the use of the rendering "a god" does. It makes the phrase "with God" in Jo 1:1b mean God as Deity, and the rendering of "a god" of Jo 1:1c as something less than God, or by contextual semantics something that is "non-God".

3. Thus the rendering "a" god is quite acceptable if Jo 1:1b was made to say "And the Word was with "The" god. But it is not so acceptable if the renderings are said to be: "the Word was with God... and the word was a god" . By using this convenient subterfuge one is tilting the balance in favour of an Arian understanding of the text when it is in fact teaching Monotheism. The kind of Monotheism being declared is in debate, not that the Trinitarian form is wrong and the Monad form is the only one permissible.

4. Harner helped revolutionize our understanding of this grammatical construction and thus went farther than what Colwell did. Colwell was concerned about whether Jo 1:1c made θεος a definite or an indefinite noun. Harner showed that it was neither.

5. Thus this construction is called "The Qualitative Nominative" or "Predicate Nominative". The NWT faces up to one such text in the same grammatical construction at Lu 20:38, where they say of the Father that He is "a God".

6. If the Father can be called "a God" in a construction that is exactly the same as that of Jo 1:1c, then one would at least be satisfied if the NWT also called The Word "A God" at that latter verse. This would not be theologically applicable but grammatically permissible

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I have two questions about RC Australia

by bobld in

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1.is this rc only about the wbts?.

2. why did the gb/fds asked for all the money to be sent to hq?

ok so they could sent all that money off shore..

moggy lover

1. The official name for the government probe into child abuse in Australia is:

The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse.

[Like Canada, the UK, New Zealand and other countries in the Caribbean, Australia is a monarchy, and all government probes into national impropriety are called "Royal" Commissions. In other words they are done under the authority of the reigning monarch who currently is Queen Elizabeth the Second. It is her Royal authority that guarantees civil liberties within the realm]

As a result of growing allegations of child abuse stemming from the mishandling of children in the protective care of institutions which were supposed to protect the rights of the children in their charge, back in 2012, the Australian government passed legislation through parliament establishing this Commission.

Since many of these institutions were run by religious bodies, it was inevitable that the base policies of these religions would be probed as well. The Commission however was not restricted to uncovering child abuse in religions alone, but in all institutional facilities as well, whether sporting, political, health, and even state funded organizations.

It has been on-going since the 13th of January 2013 when the Royal Commission was established. Thus far, such institutions as The Australian Boy Scouts, Swimming Australia, the Roman Catholic Church and its various offshoot bodies such as the St Vincent De Paul Society, The Salvation Army and others have been examined.

The probe into the Jehovah's Witnesses began on the 20th of July this year. The examination is expected to last about three weeks.

2. The answer to your second question may have several ramifications, the most important being that since the WTS is a highly concentrated power elite organization, it seems appropriate, to them at least, to concentrate all wealth in the hands of said elite.

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Trump is a funny guy. Attacks John McCain

by James Mixon in

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the guy don't realize when he attack john mccain he alienated every men .

and women who served in the military.

and this is coming from a guy that.

moggy lover

Hey, go easy on the guy willya? He's at least got one thing going for him. He is what the Washington Post is calling "The Great Unifier".

Yup. He's the only guy who can unite the Democrats and Republicans. At last they got something they both agree on!!